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Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars)
Date: 29 May 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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> TUBA - ‘a vow’ or ‘a holy    Tuba - a vow, a pledge
> gift’. In the expression     (Pamirian, Eastern
> "Tongan iz polou tuba        Caucasian)
> obasa"
>                              Or from Tuva - a gift (See
>                              below)
>
> TUVIN - in the Omurtag's     Tuwa - a gift (Talish,
> expression "And the tuvin    Eastern Caucasian)
> is famous, fine."
>                              TUVIN probably means ‘given
>                              as gift’


if tuva is taken to be from "pashto" tuhfa - gift - this etymology is
impossible since tuhfa is a later day loan from arabic tuHfa(t)
"gift", with a /H/ i.e. /h./ pharyngeal unvoiced fricative which is
not native to pashto and is genearlly afro-asiatic. see aslanov
pashto-russian p. 218 (2nd col. - "podarok")  for confirmation.