From: "H.M.Hubey" Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <3722705D.B10E96BA@montclair.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <369E3BE1.5C45@sbu.ac.uk> <77li2j$qi0$1@whisper.globalserve.net> <369F52FE.2B6@sbu.ac.uk> <77rc86$auj$1@brokaw.wa.com> <36A444B3.F3B70F1C@alum.mit.edu.-> <7827sb$269$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36A52D70.9E372DD2@alum.mit.edu.-> <36A556AB.9927BD29@montclair.edu> <36a63533.58309714@news.yale.edu> <7866ud$i9m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36cdb21e.883120019@news.wxs.nl> <36A7FCC8.79790A6B@earthlink.net> <36d77e23.1000882888@news.wxs.nl> <36a8d455.81661202@news.yale.edu> <78pl3c$84o@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b0dc2f.3434839@news.yale.edu> <78v30o$vl6@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b34d7c.60430113@news.yale.edu> <794e84$4iq@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3744d12a.1873763068@news.wxs.nl> <796m95$eq2@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <375c0ea6.1954957123@news.wxs.nl> <79fo99$qkl@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <371e5362.14471999@news.yale.edu> <7fs1j8$brv@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> To: Vassil Karloukovski X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com X-Trace: l5whf0YoNuTFOBJmSOsklFz7IS9JNqVe4plZu0bqSFk= Organization: Montclair State University Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 1999 01:26:16 GMT Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.lang Vassil Karloukovski wrote: > > if wakhi, etc. c,@rbu -> bulg. chorbadzhi, chorbadzhija (master, boss; rich > man), then Dobrev probably had in mind another word char, which already fell > off use in the 19th c. I think chorbadji is from Ottoman. It was probably a title left over from the olden days, like subashi (water-chief). But then is "chorba" Turkic? How would anyone know? Look at some of these words; Turk. ot (fire), Sumer. utu (fire, sun), Turk. IsI (heat), Hittite hassa (oven), Turk. issi (hot), Turk. pish (to cook), Turk. hashla (to cook by boiling). Notice the p>h change which is postulated for protoTurkic. Notice English hot, heat, etc. Also note that DAniels says that 'proto-Euphratic' is Semitic, and that there are other linguists who claim to find traces of Semitic in other IE languages such as in German, or Celtic. So now look at Turk. 'chorba' (soup), KB, shorpa (soup), and English 'soup'. -- Best Regards, Mark -==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= hubeyh@montclair.edu =-=-=-= http://www.csam.montclair.edu/~hubey =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=