From: cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User) Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars) Date: 23 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <3720f74a.8447837@news.yale.edu> References: <36ca073a.16343620@news.yale.edu> <36cca3ed.14676934@news.yale.edu> <36cca75c.15555467@news.yale.edu> <36cf2980.190197920@news.yale.edu> <36dee7fa.108219411@news.yale.edu> <36e40f21.4849643@news.yale.edu> <7c6hs4$va@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36f6aeef.439178515@news.yale.edu> <7dajnt$ssk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7ei51h$4m5$1@news.ox.ac.uk> <370cf95d.8677457@news.yale.edu> <7en884$1t8@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3712427B.DA4346AA@mbay.net> <3713a994.660219@news.yale.edu> <371BFCD7.98263C22@montclair.edu> Organization: Yale University Newsgroups: sci.lang On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:04:39 -0400, "H.M.Hubey" wrote: > > >Cluster User wrote: >> >> O >> turkic has native yaz= "to write", chuv. s'Ir= (hung. i'r=). >> (perhaps *ya:z=) > >yaz/caz likely came from Ciz/sIz and thus likely from >s'Ir. > > there are some problems with the -i- in chuavsh and hungarian. tukic -a- is frequently found as -I- in ogur, and the hungarian example with no gy- may point to an early loan and the i- may be a development within hungarian. in some siberian uralic language it is yeri- "to draw" (NB r + palatal!) and thus it may have been y- all along. >-- >Best Regards, >Mark >-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >hubeyh@montclair.edu =-=-=-= http://www.csam.montclair.edu/~hubey >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=