From: cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User) Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars) Date: 31 Mar 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <3701a4c4.20580553@news.yale.edu> References: <36ca073a.16343620@news.yale.edu> <36cca3ed.14676934@news.yale.edu> <36cca75c.15555467@news.yale.edu> <36cf2980.190197920@news.yale.edu> <36dee7fa.108219411@news.yale.edu> <36e40f21.4849643@news.yale.edu> <7c6hs4$va@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36f6aeef.439178515@news.yale.edu> <7dajnt$ssk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <3701a35c.20220675@news.yale.edu> Organization: Yale University Newsgroups: sci.lang On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:26:45 GMT, cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User) wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >DOJKA - a wet-nurse > >The Bulgarian etymological dictionary [BER] correctly connected it >with >DOJA ('to suckle; to milk'), not providing, however, any direct >parallels >from other l-s. The only group of peoples who have a similar >word is the Pamirian, where it sounds as DO*J*A, DA*J*A >(RPDS, 389; GASK, 334, etc.] > dobrev clearly has read the bulgarian etymological dictionary which I have partially been able to look at as well. one wonders why he still includes loanwords from ottoman turkish (and a few from the local dialect). perhaps he thought this was part of the "turkic" argument for the origin of the bulghars, which it obviously is not. even the vocabulary of bulghar which incorporates the steppe jargon and used by the tu"rku"t is not sufficient. the turkic theory posits an -r turkic origin, and hence one looks for the appropriate deviations from common turkic. it seems to me dobrev hasn't completely grasped the fine points of the argument.