From: e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil Karloukovski) Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars Date: 22 Mar 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <7d546l$1ev@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> References: <369E3BE1.5C45@sbu.ac.uk> <77li2j$qi0$1@whisper.globalserve.net> <369F52FE.2B6@sbu.ac.uk> <77rc86$auj$1@brokaw.wa.com> <36A444B3.F3B70F1C@alum.mit.edu.-> <7827sb$269$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36A52D70.9E372DD2@alum.mit.edu.-> <36A556AB.9927BD29@montclair.edu> <36a63533.58309714@news.yale.edu> <7866ud$i9m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36cdb21e.883120019@news.wxs.nl> <36A7FCC8.79790A6B@earthlink.net> <36d77e23.1000882888@news.wxs.nl> <36a8d455.81661202@news.yale.edu> <78pl3c$84o@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b0dc2f.3434839@news.yale.edu> <78v30o$vl6@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b34d7c.60430113@news.yale.edu> <794e84$4iq@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3744d12a.1873763068@news.wxs.nl> <796m95$eq2@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <375c0ea6.1954957123@news.wxs.nl> <79fo99$qkl@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36f597c8.18429910@news.yale.edu> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Organization: University of East Anglia, Norwich, U.K. Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.lang In article <36f597c8.18429910@news.yale.edu>, cluster.user@yale.edu says... >On 17 Mar 1999 23:21:20 GMT, e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil Karloukovski) wrote: ... >>And the saka calendar was not lunar but solar - the year had twelve months of 30 >>days and 5 festive days at the new year (Al-Biruni). [The bulgar cyclic calendar >>was also solar, although it differed from the saka - it had four seasons of 91 >>days (31 days in the first month, and 30 days in the next two) + 1 festive day >>(the new year).] > >just what is the evidence for the details of this bulghar calender? the evidence is circumventional, I think, although I haven't read the correspondent publication [Jordan V@lchev, Kalendar i slovo, S., 1986] which claims that. Generally, it was noticed that some of the bulg. folk festivals which do not look slavic and can be attributed to the bulgars form a pattern - there was a festival on (supposedly) the third day of the third year (Todorovden, 03.03, horse races), on the fifth day of the fifth month (Gergjovden, 06.05, slaughter of sheep), on the seventh day of the seventh month (Petrovden, slaughter of hens; But Petrovden is 12.07!, a discrepancy creeps in), on the ninth day of the ninth month - slaughter of rams. But as I told you earlier, it is still a matter of debate what on the Balkans is slavic, thracian, dacian, etc. Regards, Vassil K. >>So, saka's was an example of a solar cyclic calendar different from the chinese >>lunar and the turkic calendars.