From: cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User) Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars) Date: 04 Mar 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <36dde855.22846201@news.yale.edu> References: <36ca073a.16343620@news.yale.edu> <36cca3ed.14676934@news.yale.edu> <36ccb13d.18084634@news.yale.edu> <7ap23l$klu@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36dc5653.5725843@news.yale.edu> <7bk2dp$39@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> Organization: Yale University Newsgroups: sci.lang On 3 Mar 1999 19:26:49 GMT, e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil Karloukovski) wrote: > > " From the VIIth to the Xth century, there flourished in South > Russia and around the Carpathians, a school of metal workers who are > usually linked to the Sasanian silver-workers of Iran." > (D.M. Lang. The Bulgarians..., 1976, p. 123) > >The inscription on a golden cup from Nagy Saint Miklos reads > > BOILA ZOAPAN TESI DUGETOIGI BOITAUL ZOAPAN TAGROGI ITZIGI TAISI this is what pritsak attributes to "pecehnegs". the problem is with "tas" - cup or small basin. dobrev has: TES - a golden basin, a Tesh - a basin, a bowl bowl, in the expression (Pamirian) ‘BOILA ZOAPAN TEZI’ T’sh - a basin, a bowl (Talish, Persian) Compare also to Tesh - gold (Eastern Caucasian) wakhi has tA*sh*t (back vowel a). now the persian word is ta*sh*t, zend tasta. an arabization is Ta:s (written with emphatic t, due to their method of transcription from pahlavi (there are also Tast and Ti*sh*t variants in arabic, but not so popular) and this is a backloan in persian. it is also a frequent loan in other languages. the problem is the appearance of the form without t which is latter. pritsak also offers entirely different interpretations. > >and according to Dobrev describes the fraternisation between two >dignitaries, two "boila zhupans" (allegedly done by drinking wine >mixed with blood from the cup). > > >Regards, >Vassil K. >