From: "Richard T. Sattich" Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars Date: 23 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <36D37742.345C@pop.uky.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <369E3BE1.5C45@sbu.ac.uk> <77li2j$qi0$1@whisper.globalserve.net> <369F52FE.2B6@sbu.ac.uk> <77rc86$auj$1@brokaw.wa.com> <36A444B3.F3B70F1C@alum.mit.edu.-> <7827sb$269$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36A52D70.9E372DD2@alum.mit.edu.-> <36A556AB.9927BD29@montclair.edu> <36a63533.58309714@news.yale.edu> <7866ud$i9m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36cdb21e.883120019@news.wxs.nl> <36A7FCC8.79790A6B@earthlink.net> <36d77e23.1000882888@news.wxs.nl> <36a8d455.81661202@news.yale.edu> <78pl3c$84o@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b0dc2f.3434839@news.yale.edu> <78v30o$vl6@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b34d7c.60430113@news.yale.edu> <794e84$4iq@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3744d12a.1873763068@news.wxs.nl> <796m95$eq2@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <375c0ea6.1954957123@news.wxs.nl> <79fo99$qkl@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36c4baf4.66825940@news.yale.edu> <7a42rv$1bn@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: University of Kentucky Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: rtsatt01@pop.uky.edu Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.lang Vassil Karloukovski wrote: > > In article <36c4baf4.66825940@news.yale.edu>, cluster.user@yale.edu says... > > >an interesting but grissly side-note to common hunnic - turkic - > >bulgar is currently found in the thread "Hsiung-Nu and the practice of > >'Skull Cupping" posted in soc.history.ancient and some soc.culture.* > >groups. > > the practice of skull cupping was not exclusively hunnic-turkic. It was > also found among celts, scythians, etc. Paul the Deacon also says that > the langobard king Alboin made a drinking cup from the skull of the slain > gepidae king Cunimund. > > Regards, > Vassil K. This seems like as good a place as any to interject this. The following was posted to dejanews.comm.taotalk by zhoubu@aol.com . It is a news article from the 2/18/99 L.A. Times. It seems evidence is "cropping up" that indicates a "Asian melting pot". I would be interested in reading comments. Here is the content of the post: " Title: "Tales Woven by Fabrics" Subtile: "Clothing and ("anglo/Celtic" nomadic) mummies preserved for 4,000 years in China suggests that links between East and West began 1,500 years earlier than thought. Researchers say evidence supports idea that prehistoric civilizations in Europe and China arose from same source in Persia grasslands." "You have two waves of people coming east from the western shore of the Caspian Sea all the way across to the edge of China at such an early date," Prof Barber says. "Most people think that contact only started with the Silk Road at around 100 BC Barber says. "We have pushed that way back.." Using the artifacts from tombs as a starting point, Barber has branded together strands of evidence from linquistics, archeology, forensic medicine.. to conclude that Asia's grass steppes were a remarkable thoroughfare for the spread of language, technology, and humanity.. "even ideas of magic and divination, evidence suggests." The discoveries are forcing scholars to revise their ideas of China's early history. Since the 1970's, Chinese and Xinjian Uighur archeologists have discovered scores of tombs in prehistoric cemetaries in the Tarim Basin around Uramqi. The region lies in the far northwestern corner of China, bordered to the north by the Altai Mountains of Mongolia and in the west by Kazahgstan. And in conclusion-ing, intimately-interesting enough for our group :-) 'Textile professor Good/Occidental College (plus Prof. Barber)-- who examined the mummies along with archeologists (and TTC/CT translator) VICTOR H. MAIR has marshalled her research in a book. "The Mummies of Urumchi," published by W.W. Norton & Co. Regards, Zhou 'Science and Life' article/ Los Angeles Times/ 2.18.99/ caps mine "