From: cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User)
Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars)
Date: 30 Jan 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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On 30 Jan 1999 14:07:55 GMT, e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil
Karloukovski) wrote:

>In article <36b214b4.73903547@news.yale.edu>, cluster.user@yale.edu says...
>>On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:22:13 GMT, emko@mail.techno-link.com wrote:
>
>>>The Bulgars are Bulgars ...
>>>
>>>http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/pb_lang/index.html
>>>http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/b_lang/
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>"old bulgarian" etymologies in modern bulgarian.
>>
>>this list contains many (*not* all) words from ottoman turkish (either
>>of persian, arabic, turkish or other origin). the reason these
>>can be found in pamir languages is the common relationship 
>>of persian with them or borrowing from persian. in somw cases the
>>resemblence is coincidental.
>
>
>I would be very interested in having your more detailed opinion, even it
>would be great to put them as commentaries on the web-page. While there are
>indeed hundreds if not thousands of persian, turkish, arabic words in 
>modern bulgarian (via ottoman turkish), it would be difficult to imagine
>pashto words getting into bulgarian this way. 

OK. after I get it organised. the words I have in mind are not native
or peculiar to the languages in question. some of them are labeled
"talysh". this is a west-iranic minority language in azerbaijan (see
for example "ethnologue") and one can readily see how much imbued with
loanwords it must be.

>
>
>Regards,
>Vassil Karloukovski
>