From: "Peter T. Daniels" Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars Date: 03 May 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <372D87F2.7A65@worldnet.att.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <369E3BE1.5C45@sbu.ac.uk> <77li2j$qi0$1@whisper.globalserve.net> <369F52FE.2B6@sbu.ac.uk> <77rc86$auj$1@brokaw.wa.com> <36A444B3.F3B70F1C@alum.mit.edu.-> <7827sb$269$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36A52D70.9E372DD2@alum.mit.edu.-> <36A556AB.9927BD29@montclair.edu> <36a63533.58309714@news.yale.edu> <7866ud$i9m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36cdb21e.883120019@news.wxs.nl> <36A7FCC8.79790A6B@earthlink.net> <36d77e23.1000882888@news.wxs.nl> <36a8d455.81661202@news.yale.edu> <78pl3c$84o@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b0dc2f.3434839@news.yale.edu> <78v30o$vl6@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b34d7c.60430113@news.yale.edu> <794e84$4iq@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3744d12a.1873763068@news.wxs.nl> <796m95$eq2@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <375c0ea6.1954957123@news.wxs.nl> <79fo99$qkl@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3718c0d8.988421@news.yale.edu> <7fhjus$h91@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <371e5362.14471999@news.yale.edu> <371fb5a6.150957194@news.yale.edu> <3720e880.6538676@news.uunet.lu> <372cf099.18814203@news.yale.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net 925730796 18757 12.78.192.190 (3 May 1999 11:26:36 GMT) Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 May 1999 11:26:36 GMT Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.lang Cluster User wrote: > OK. this is because vassil Karloukovski had communicated to me: > > << ...DObrev also has the old syrian BLEHARO - a fine leather, in a > I-II c. AD dictionary of old syriac, which according to Dobrev comes > to show they had this industry even before their moving to Europe. > ..>> There's no such thing. The earliest native Syriac lexicography (Bar Bahlul) is ca. 8th c. If he means a modern dictionary of Old Syriac, there's also no such thing; the materials are too meager and there's no reason to separate them into a separate research tool. Finally, there are no texts in Syriac from the 1st c.; the earliest dated Syriac document is a bill of sale from Dura Europos from 114 A.D., and the earliest Syriac ms. is from 411 A.D. > so this gives the ZDMG article as a reference. I don't know what > thesaurus syriacus is quoting, but that in itself is a late 19th > century syriac - latin dictionary, > > so there is no ble*kh*arw but ble*ph*arw. ... and evidently they are > talking about diseased eyelids and not bulghar leather! And it's obviously a Greek lw. in whatever medical text it may come from. The Payne Smith Syriac Lexicon (based on the Thesaurus) doesn't seem to list such a word, and Brockelmann's Lexicon Syriacum has bl'prwnwn defined as 'venafranum (oleum)', with a reference to Geop 86:25. (Geop = Geoponicon in sermonem syriacum versorum quae supersunt P. de Lagarde edidit. Leipzig 1860.) -- Peter T. Daniels grammatim@worldnet.att.net