From: "Stephan Nikolov" Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars Date: 02 May 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <7gihg8$63b$1@news.ox.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <369E3BE1.5C45@sbu.ac.uk> <369F52FE.2B6@sbu.ac.uk> <77rc86$auj$1@brokaw.wa.com> <36A444B3.F3B70F1C@alum.mit.edu.-> <7827sb$269$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36A52D70.9E372DD2@alum.mit.edu.-> <36A556AB.9927BD29@montclair.edu> <36a63533.58309714@news.yale.edu> <7866ud$i9m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36cdb21e.883120019@news.wxs.nl> <36A7FCC8.79790A6B@earthlink.net> <36d77e23.1000882888@news.wxs.nl> <36a8d455.81661202@news.yale.edu> <78pl3c$84o@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b0dc2f.3434839@news.yale.edu> <78v30o$vl6@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b34d7c.60430113@news.yale.edu> <794e84$4iq@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3744d12a.1873763068@news.wxs.nl> <796m95$eq2@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <375c0ea6.1954957123@news.wxs.nl> <79fo99$qkl@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <371e5362.14471999@news.yale.edu> <7fs1j8$brv@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3722705D.B10E96BA@montclair.edu> <37228395.105363334@news.yale.edu> <7g2adc$qkv$1@news.ox.ac.uk> <3724c639.8283551@news.yale.edu> <372792ce.17040963@news.yale.edu> <372939ea.111301493@news.yale.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@ox.ac.uk X-Trace: news.ox.ac.uk 925681992 6251 163.1.171.102 (2 May 1999 21:53:12 GMT) Organization: Ste Peter's College, Oxford Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 May 1999 21:53:12 GMT Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.lang Cluster User wrote in message <372939ea.111301493@news.yale.edu>... >On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:32:16 +0100, "Stephan Nikolov" > wrote: > >>Further, the ethnogenesis is an ongoing process as well as the language is an >>open system. >>There have been a sizeable Gothic and Sarmatian community all along the lower >>and the middle Danube since the beginning of the 4th century, so they must have > >this is very interesting. > Well, the territory of present day Romania is called Gothia in Ammianus Marcellinus. In fact, Ammianus gives quite good references but I do not think that he him self was very well informed on the Roman policy among Goths and Sarmathians. Among most recent reserchers there are four authors that deserve some special attention: H. Wolfran, History of the Goths P. Heather, The Goths quite a few articles of W. pohl on the ethnogenesis J. Matthews, The Roman Empire of Ammianus. SN >>left their imprint on the Bulgars dwelling in the vicinity. The Alan-Bulgar >>connection was commented as well. > >there is widely acknowledged linguistic evidence for an iranian >substratum in northwestern turkic languages and chuvash. > >> >>SN >> >> >> >