From: mcv@wxs.nl (Miguel Carrasquer Vidal)
Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars
Date: 17 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:13:00 GMT, cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster
User) wrote:

>On 08 Feb 1999 Vassil Karloukovski 
>[envrcl.env.uea.ac.uk@uea.ac.uk (envresearch lab)} wrote:
>>And as we are in this mood, let's look at the name of HAJLANDURI -
>>caucasian mountainers, friends of the kushans and enemies of the persians,
>>who were either part of or connected to the unogundurs-bulgars. One
>>armenian researcher derived HAJLANDURI from the celtic HAILAND and
>>HIGHLANDEUR.  Any objections?
>
>miguel, is there a celtic word I am missing? 

"Celtic" is not really specific enough.  I can't think of any
Celtic word "hailand".  Funny that an Armenian shouldn't have
come up with some derivation of Hay- "Armenian".

>"highlander" was
>given by english speakers ot the gaelic scots when they were
>driven to the highlands of scotland centuries later.
>"highlander" has a perfectly sound anglo-saxon (i.e. germanic)
>etymology.

Yes, I think so.

>>what is so wrong with the celtic interpretation?, a plausible one could
>>probably be constructed.  Let's start with the ethnicons you like so
>>much: the eastern CIMMERIANS vs. CYMR (Wales). Any objections?  :-))
>
>what do you say miguel? at any rate this is a different time period.

Cymry means "compatriots" (can't find the correct etymology now:
*kom-broges ??).  The Cimmerians are known as Kimmer- (Greek),
Gimmer- (Assyrian), Gomer- (Hebrew), Gamir- (Armenian).  And
Cimmeria = Crimea.  No connection.  

The Celts are indigenous to Western and Central Europe.  A few of
them ventured into the Balkans in the 3rd. c. BC and wound up in
Galatia (Anatolia), where they were Hellenized over the next
centuries.  There never were any Celts in Central Asia.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@wxs.nl
Amsterdam