From: cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User) Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars) Date: 10 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <370e9c4b.38204164@news.yale.edu> References: <36ca073a.16343620@news.yale.edu> <36cca3ed.14676934@news.yale.edu> <36cca75c.15555467@news.yale.edu> <36cf2980.190197920@news.yale.edu> <36dee7fa.108219411@news.yale.edu> <36e40f21.4849643@news.yale.edu> <7c6hs4$va@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36f6aeef.439178515@news.yale.edu> <7dajnt$ssk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <7ei51h$4m5$1@news.ox.ac.uk> <370e87fa.33003186@news.yale.edu> <370e9c08.38137358@news.yale.edu> Organization: Yale University Newsgroups: sci.lang On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:32:52 GMT, cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User) wrote: >> >> VER - the year of the Berka - a big snake (Eastern >> Dragon Caucasian) >> >> Waran (Pamirian) > >veren < turkic evren "dragon", "firmament (i.e. sky, stars etc.), > (also "oven") from evir= to turn around >apparently ewren/evren was latter found as a volgabulghar name. > >either e/v reversal or evren > *o":ren > veren (o": > ve - found >in -r turkic. > >> can't find it iranian. listed by dobrev for tajik, can't find it. iranian has avesta a*zh*i dahaka in a well known legend (later a half-serpent king, zohak, dahak in kurdish) for "dragon". new persian ejder, ejdeha (j=/zh/)