From: e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil Karloukovski) Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars Date: 01 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <7dvofs$ai0@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> References: <369E3BE1.5C45@sbu.ac.uk> <77li2j$qi0$1@whisper.globalserve.net> <369F52FE.2B6@sbu.ac.uk> <77rc86$auj$1@brokaw.wa.com> <36A444B3.F3B70F1C@alum.mit.edu.-> <7827sb$269$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36A52D70.9E372DD2@alum.mit.edu.-> <36A556AB.9927BD29@montclair.edu> <36a63533.58309714@news.yale.edu> <7866ud$i9m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36cdb21e.883120019@news.wxs.nl> <36A7FCC8.79790A6B@earthlink.net> <36d77e23.1000882888@news.wxs.nl> <36a8d455.81661202@news.yale.edu> <78pl3c$84o@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b0dc2f.3434839@news.yale.edu> <78v30o$vl6@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b34d7c.60430113@news.yale.edu> <794e84$4iq@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3744d12a.1873763068@news.wxs.nl> <796m95$eq2@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <375c0ea6.1954957123@news.wxs.nl> <79fo99$qkl@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <370296ad.69443734@news.yale.edu> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Organization: University of East Anglia, Norwich, UK Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.lang In article <370296ad.69443734@news.yale.edu>, cluster.user@yale.edu says... ... >>inconsistencies with the modern views on the Bulg. history: "kavgan"?, >>T@rnovo? (T@rnovo became capital only in the XII-th c., in the Second >>Bulg. Kingdom!; Pliska and Preslav were the capitals of the first >>kingdom). The director of the Bulg. National museum of history also >>rejected the authenticity of the Voden inscription on the basis that >>Shishman was a XII-XIII c. Kuman name... > >I can understand his objections. it's not an oghuric word. The objections are also based on paleographic observations - the letters of the inscription do not correspond to this epoch (X c.) The inscription itself can be seen at http://members.tripod.com/~ziezi/vod >perhaps upon hearing an objection on linguistic grounds, dobrev came >up with an alternate hypothesis. I doubt Dobrev relied on such a questionable evidence when speaking about this Roman Shishman, but I will post here again if I find out more. Regards, Vassil K.