From: "Stephan Nikolov" Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (...) Date: 10 Mar 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <7c4ppa$731$1@news.ox.ac.uk> References: <36ca073a.16343620@news.yale.edu> <36cca3ed.14676934@news.yale.edu> <36ccb13d.18084634@news.yale.edu> <7ap23l$klu@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36dc5653.5725843@news.yale.edu> <7bk2dp$39@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36dde855.22846201@news.yale.edu> <36DE4DD5.1B77@see.sig> <7brmnt$13j@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@ox.ac.uk X-Trace: news.ox.ac.uk 921037418 7265 163.1.171.102 (10 Mar 1999 03:43:38 GMT) Organization: Ste Peter's College, Oxford NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Mar 1999 03:43:38 GMT Newsgroups: sci.lang Vassil Karloukovski wrote in message <7brmnt$13j@cpca3.uea.ac.uk>... >In article <36DE4DD5.1B77@see.sig>, george@see.sig says... >>Cluster User wrote: > >... >>But do those golden vessels of Nagyszentmiklos/Sannicolaul Mare >>(now in a museum in Vienna, Austria) have any Christian symbols? >>I have a color picture with 11 of the 23 items. On a larger dish-bowl >>there is a cross surrounded by 2 decorative circles: > > >many bulgar inscriptions have crosses, and one khan - Kubrat, is known to >have been Christian (Kubrat in his childhood lived in Constantinople and >was a "close friend of the emperor Heraclius", /Joan Nicius/). John of Nikiu is not the correct source, as established once by Marquart. Quernaka and Ketrades can not render Organas and Kubratos. The relevant source is Nicephoros. SN But as Mr. >Nikolov and others say, the "God" in the bulg. inscriptions was probably >some anonymous god and not the Christian one. > >the 1st one has an >>inscription--seemingly uncial letters; the text is unreadable, since >>this is no close-up photo. > > >there are a lot of inscriptions on the vessels - bulgar in greek and runic >letters, and non-bulgar in runic. Have a look at > http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/pb_lang/suppl6.html - runic > http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/pb_lang/pbl_1_3.html - greek > >Besides, does anyone know what the >>bas-relief bird on the main mug as well as the bovid-elk-like heads >>attached to 2 tripod-chalices symbolize? > > >?? >Are there any good web-sites with pictures from Nagy Saint Miklos? I would >like to index them from my site. > >Regards, >Vassil K. > >>Thank you. >>George >> >