From: cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User) Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars Date: 25 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <36d4af09.200065368@news.yale.edu> References: <369E3BE1.5C45@sbu.ac.uk> <77li2j$qi0$1@whisper.globalserve.net> <369F52FE.2B6@sbu.ac.uk> <77rc86$auj$1@brokaw.wa.com> <36A444B3.F3B70F1C@alum.mit.edu.-> <7827sb$269$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36A52D70.9E372DD2@alum.mit.edu.-> <36A556AB.9927BD29@montclair.edu> <36a63533.58309714@news.yale.edu> <7866ud$i9m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36cdb21e.883120019@news.wxs.nl> <36A7FCC8.79790A6B@earthlink.net> <36d77e23.1000882888@news.wxs.nl> <36a8d455.81661202@news.yale.edu> <78pl3c$84o@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b0dc2f.3434839@news.yale.edu> <78v30o$vl6@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b34d7c.60430113@news.yale.edu> <794e84$4iq@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3744d12a.1873763068@news.wxs.nl> <796m95$eq2@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <375c0ea6.1954957123@news.wxs.nl> <79fo99$qkl@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36D37742.345C@pop.uky.edu> <7b1t4h$44h@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> Organization: Yale University Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.lang On 24 Feb 1999 22:06:09 GMT, e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil Karloukovski) wrote: > >I asking this having im mind the odd "Celtic" translations of Dobrev of >some old Bulgar inscriptions. In most cases he relies on (eastern) Iranian >(or eastern Caucasian) but for some words both Iranian and Celtic parallels >are found: > >both the Iranian "hulburae" (protection cover) and the Celtic "hlubram" >(canopy) probably correspond to the old Bulgar "hl(o)ubrin", mentioned >in a list of armaments; to the Bulgar "kosr" - the Iranian "kasr" (temple, what's the bulgar context and the iranian source? latin has castrum and castellum, a dimunitive. >church) and the Celtic "kasl" (castle); to "san" - the Iranian "shun" >(shining) and the Celtic sun, san (sun, star); to "tvir" (four) - the >Celtic "teoir" and the Iranian "zfir"; to "hos" - the Celtic "hius" >(sacred, magic), etc. >