From: e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil Karloukovski)
Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars)
Date: 19 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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In article <36cca75c.15555467@news.yale.edu>, cluster.user@yale.edu says...

>>AMI - but, and,    AME, ME (‘this, such’) [IJa,    Ishkashimi,
>> why, well         AG, 332]                        Mundzhani
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>turk. ama "but" < `ar. 'amma: (particle for contrast)
[...]


Thanks a lot of for your efforts to produce all these etymologies. 
When/if you are ready with your final version, I could add it as a 
third explanatory column to the tables at
       http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/b_lang/

Still, your list would explain as ottoman around 100 out of the 
total number of more than 600 (modern) bulgarian words for which 
Dobrev claimed proto-bulgarian origin. I noticed that you have 
included few verbs when it is exactly very commonly used verbs such as
 vyrvja (to walk), ticham (to run), karam (to drive), prashtam (to send),
 hvyrcha (to fly), chupja (to break), tyrsja (to seek), pusha (to smoke)...
for which iranian/(caucasian) cognates are proposed and which sound
pretty un-slavic to my ears (I compare them to russian). 

Also verbs like
 butam (to push), bucha (to pin), byrkam (to make a mistake),
 vadja (to pull out), debna (to stalk), drusam (to shake), 
 drypna (to pull), kanja (to invite guests), kracha (to pace),
 kachvam (to climb), mrazja (to hate), mushkam (to poke),
 pazja (to guard), patja (to suffer), pyrzha (to fry), 
 ritam (to kick), trygvam (to set off), chukam (to knock), etc. 

Could it be that your "ottoman" list lacks verbs because they are more 
difficult to be adopted from another language (say, turkish)?


Regards,
Vassil K.