From: cluster.user@yale.edu (Cluster User)
Subject: Re: The Bulgars are Bulgars (Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars)
Date: 19 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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as for old bulgarian aside, from the fact some words are seen
in turkic I have suspicions with these: 



> KAZNACHII - a treasurer      Khazna - a treasure
>                              (Persian, Pamirian)

> 

xazna is short for `ar xazi:na(t) (treasure)
the old bulgarian word must be something else.


> IMAET - a trustee, in the    Imaet - a trustee, a
> expression ZHUPAN I IMAET    guardian (Pamirian)
> GEORGE


imaet (pamirian) sounds like `ar. 'ama:na(t) (putting into
                               trust)

if so, the old bulgarian word must be something else.

> MIR - a court title, in      Mir - a master, a ruler
> the expression ZITKOI MIR    (Pamirian)
> from the Madara fortress
>                              Mikhr - a noble (Persian)

> 


mi:r is short for `ar. 'ami:r (an amir, commander, prince)
this was noticed by menges, byzantion vol. 28, p. 447-448.
according to him, it is not a title at all, but the last'
syllable of a slavic proper name. I don't know about
persian "mikhr" (not in any persian or middle persian
dictionary of mine), but I find it unlikely that *kh* would 
drop out.

>Words from the language of the Volga Bulgars:


> Volga Bulgar word            Closest analogies

> 
> KHALDZHA - the lakes near   Khalidzh - an inlet, a pool,
> the summer palace of the    a lake in some Pamirian
> king of the Volga Bulgars   languages
> Almus in 921 AD.


xali:*dj* is found in arabic (gulf, thus inlet). if that
is the word, then xal*dj*a must come from somewhere else.