From: e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil Karloukovski) Subject: Re: Caucasoid Turks/Bulgars Date: 16 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <7abimh$jns@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> References: <369E3BE1.5C45@sbu.ac.uk> <77li2j$qi0$1@whisper.globalserve.net> <369F52FE.2B6@sbu.ac.uk> <77rc86$auj$1@brokaw.wa.com> <36A444B3.F3B70F1C@alum.mit.edu.-> <7827sb$269$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36A52D70.9E372DD2@alum.mit.edu.-> <36A556AB.9927BD29@montclair.edu> <36a63533.58309714@news.yale.edu> <7866ud$i9m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36cdb21e.883120019@news.wxs.nl> <36A7FCC8.79790A6B@earthlink.net> <36d77e23.1000882888@news.wxs.nl> <36a8d455.81661202@news.yale.edu> <78pl3c$84o@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b0dc2f.3434839@news.yale.edu> <78v30o$vl6@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36b34d7c.60430113@news.yale.edu> <794e84$4iq@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <3744d12a.1873763068@news.wxs.nl> <796m95$eq2@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <375c0ea6.1954957123@news.wxs.nl> <79fo99$qkl@cpca3.uea.ac.uk> <36c8d449.41875754@news.yale.edu> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Organization: University of East Anglia, Norwich, U.K. Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,sci.anthropology,sci.lang In article <36c8d449.41875754@news.yale.edu>, cluster.user@yale.edu says... >On 13 Feb 1999 14:39:59 GMT, e.karloukovski@uea.ac.uk (Vassil Karloukovski) wrote: ... >>the practice of skull cupping was not exclusively hunnic-turkic. It was >>also found among celts, scythians, etc. Paul the Deacon also says that >>the langobard king Alboin made a drinking cup from the skull of the slain >>gepidae king Cunimund. > >well, your website metions longobard - bulgar contacts. yes, but this could mean that the bulgars copied the earlier longobard example from pannonia (khan Krum himself hailed not from present bulgaria but from transylvania/pannonia). Frankly, I don't know whether the longobards in their turn followed some hunnic custom or whether it reflects earlier celtic/scythian traditions. The celts also seem to have fancied the cut heads' motif so much that its presence in the thracian art (e.g. the Rogozen treasure, V-IV c. BC) is interpreted as a celtic influence. Regards, Vassil K.